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April 26, 2021 at 14:03 #33069bobnxParticipant
Server – Desktop running Xubuntu 20.04 with NoMachine 7.4.1
Client – Connecting from Laptop running Xubuntu 20.04 with NoMachine 7.4.1
Screen on client (Laptop) very slow to refresh. If for example you open a terminal window and type “a”, it does not appear (but does appear on Desktop screen). Then type “s” and “as” appears on client screen. Input ‘seems’ to go to the server correctly and fast. It is the response back to the client that is slow.
Same laptop can connect to another Desktop running Xubuntu 18.04 and all works well.
The Xubuntu 20.04 Desktop did work fine (using 18.04) until upgrade to 20.04.
April 26, 2021 at 14:12 #33073bobnxParticipantAdditional info – right click on desktop brings up the desktop menu on the server but menu does not appear on client until mouse is moved.
April 26, 2021 at 14:34 #33077CarinParticipantHi bobnx,
we were not able to reproduce this problem on an updated Xubuntu.
Can you verify your network connection? Is it wifi? When you are able to reproduce the issue, can you please also verify CPU and ram usage on the server-side?April 26, 2021 at 16:24 #33080bobnxParticipant1gb LAN connection.
Both Desktops same LAN.
Both 8gb memory
Usable desktop Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz
Unusable desktop Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9400 @ 2.66GHzOne difference is slow desktop has:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G86 [GeForce 8500 GT] (rev a1Fast desktop has:
Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)I have tried with both the NVIDIA driver and native Linux driver with no difference.
April 27, 2021 at 08:40 #33087bobnxParticipantPerhaps a clue or maybe a red herring –
Both desktops have 2 network cards. The second cards in each desktop are connected via a crossover cable. However (in theory) all network traffic should go via the first network cards. Only DRBD traffic goes over the crossover.
I use the term “desktops” liberally. I really think of them as servers but with a GUI. That is they use Xubuntu desktop software and have physical displays attached. Each “server” runs a number of KVM virtual machines.
Bad server :
br0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255
inet6 fe80::30da:806f:e448:d89b prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20<link>
ether 00:1d:7d:d5:1d:03 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 103571 bytes 72608255 (72.6 MB)
RX errors 0 dropped 14268 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 85227 bytes 20241875 (20.2 MB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0enp3s0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 10.0.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.254 broadcast 10.0.0.255
inet6 fe80::1ad6:c7ff:fe06:b0a6 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20<link>
ether 18:d6:c7:06:b0:a6 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 6692 bytes 547764 (547.7 KB)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 6750 bytes 414873 (414.8 KB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0enp5s0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
ether 00:1d:7d:d5:1d:03 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 121528 bytes 77840793 (77.8 MB)
RX errors 0 dropped 476 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 92360 bytes 20614249 (20.6 MB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0lo: flags=73<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING> mtu 65536
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 scopeid 0x10<host>
loop txqueuelen 1000 (Local Loopback)
RX packets 1930 bytes 143736 (143.7 KB)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 1930 bytes 143736 (143.7 KB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0virbr0: flags=4099<UP,BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 192.168.100.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.100.255
ether 52:54:00:5f:52:d0 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0Good Server :
br1: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 192.168.0.201 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255
inet6 fe80::6ef0:49ff:fe14:81c3 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20<link>
ether 6c:f0:49:14:81:c3 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 726796 bytes 257686600 (257.6 MB)
RX errors 0 dropped 193314 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 655460 bytes 139205557 (139.2 MB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0enp1s0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 10.0.0.201 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.0.0.255
inet6 fe80::1ad6:c7ff:fe06:b0d6 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20<link>
ether 18:d6:c7:06:b0:d6 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 4611352 bytes 6260495476 (6.2 GB)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 2044631 bytes 187886200 (187.8 MB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0enp2s0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
ether 6c:f0:49:14:81:c3 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 13344889 bytes 17710341246 (17.7 GB)
RX errors 0 dropped 6409 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 2581827 bytes 341784717 (341.7 MB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0lo: flags=73<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING> mtu 65536
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 scopeid 0x10<host>
loop txqueuelen 1000 (Local Loopback)
RX packets 15789 bytes 1183514 (1.1 MB)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 15789 bytes 1183514 (1.1 MB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0virbr0: flags=4099<UP,BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 192.168.123.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.123.255
inet6 fe80::c024:d7ff:fe3e:30b9 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20<link>
ether c2:24:d7:3e:30:b9 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 9 bytes 642 (642.0 B)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0virbr1: flags=4099<UP,BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 192.168.100.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.100.255
ether 52:54:00:c7:7c:fe txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0vnet0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet6 fe80::fc54:ff:febf:aa61 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20<link>
ether fe:54:00:bf:aa:61 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 1751478 bytes 185570661 (185.5 MB)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 11585242 bytes 17530475362 (17.5 GB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0vnet1: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet6 fe80::fc54:ff:fed3:86ec prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20<link>
ether fe:54:00:d3:86:ec txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 219007 bytes 340890947 (340.8 MB)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 680119 bytes 180866367 (180.8 MB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0April 27, 2021 at 13:03 #33119bobnxParticipantAnother clue!
There is a KVM Xubuntu 20/04 virtual machine running under the “slow NX” machine.
So effectively both the main server and the virtual machine are both Xubuntu 20.04 (with latest updates) and NX 7.4.1
Server is slow.
Virtual machine is perfect.
A bit of info – server was an upgrade from 18.04 (also had NX server). Virtual machine was a fresh install.
April 27, 2021 at 17:16 #33131bobnxParticipantAnother clue –
If I run glxgears on the client and then open a terminal, the performance is fine i.e. if I type “a”, it appears straight away.
April 28, 2021 at 10:05 #33147CarinParticipantHi bobnx,
Could you please test the point 2. described in this article https://knowledgebase.nomachine.com/AR03P00973 ?
This way NoMachine will not attach to a physical display, but to a virtual one created by NoMachine.April 28, 2021 at 10:41 #33148bobnxParticipantYes, using:
sudo systemctl stop lightdm
sudo /etc/NX/nxserver --restartThen when I connect, the client screen is very responsive.
I hope that this is helpful to you?
May 5, 2021 at 19:27 #33258fra81ModeratorHi,
so this seems to be a problem with the specific combination of graphics card and drivers. Even if sending data to the GPU for rendering can be fast, in some exceptional cases pulling data back from the GPU for screen capture can be much slower. When you stop lightdm, NoMachine creates a virtual framebuffer which is independent from the actual graphics card and drivers. Unfortunately that issue can’t be solved in NoMachine, but you may check for a different version of video drivers. For example, you may try to install proprietary Nvidia drivers or, in case you did already, install the open source ones.
May 6, 2021 at 10:59 #33269commandlineParticipantHi,
Similar issue with Ubuntu 20.04.
What is apparent is nxclient.bin keeps consuming 100% CPU
Running
ldd /usr/NX/bin/nxclient.bin
shows quite a bit of missing libraries.ldd /usr/NX/bin/nxclient.bin
linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffd18395000)
libqt.so => not found
libnxdixl.so => not found
libnxdiex.so => not found
libnxdift.so => not found
libnxdifb.so => not found
libnxup.so => not found
libnxd.so => not found
libstdc++.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007f6b660e2000)
libnxn.so => not found
libutil.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libutil.so.1 (0x00007f6b660dd000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f6b660d7000)
libnxcau.so => not found
libnxs.so => not found
libsync.so => not found
libnxcsl.so => not found
libnxc.so => not found
libnx.so => not found
libz.so => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so (0x00007f6b660b9000)
libpng.so => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpng.so (0x00007f6b6607f000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f6b6605c000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007f6b65f0d000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007f6b65ef2000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f6b65d00000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f6b662e7000)May 6, 2021 at 16:57 #33276bobnxParticipantIn answer to post of May 5, 2021, as mentioned in post of 26th April, I have tried both the Nvidia and the Open Source drivers with no change in behavior.
Hopefully, Potex are still investigating this problem?
FYI using VNC works without problems (except of course the general VNC problems). But would much prefer to use NX.
May 6, 2021 at 17:31 #33288CarinParticipant@commandline The client with high CPU load issue will be handled in the topic here https://forums.nomachine.com/topic/nxclient-bin-high-cpu-load-100-ubuntu-20-04-lts
@bobnx What do you mean with “Potex are still investigating this problem” ?May 6, 2021 at 18:55 #33279shelterParticipantThe missing libs are because NoMachine runs in it own “chroot” or something. Nothing to worry about.
The libs are under
/usr/NX/lib/
May 7, 2021 at 16:30 #33297bobnxParticipantHi @commandline, sorry about Potex reference. A bit of a senior moment I am afraid. I have an issue on the ZK forum and was on there just before I posted here. ZK is something from Potrex. My brain got confused as to who owns/develops NX. (:-)
What I was really trying to say is – I hope NoMachine/NX are still looking at the problem. It is annoying that stock Xubuntu does not work and I have to kill Lightdm. Some of the comments seem to imply it is a Xubuntu/Lightdm problem and we have to live with it.
I don’t think is acceptable to blame xubuntu/lightdm – NX always worked previously and VNC works.
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